Bogus accusations about weapons
As for the weapons accusations against Daniel Patrick Boyd, when is it a crime for a US citizen to possess legally purchased guns that are registered and licensed? When is it a crime to go out and use these guns in shooting practice on private property? Do people here in the USA have guns and then never practice with them? Or do they practice shooting them at gun clubs and on private property? Where else are they to practice their constitutional rights? With violent crime rampant in this USA, do we not realize that many US states have enacted self-defense laws that greatly expand the right to use deadly force to defend oneself and family? What is the U.S. Constitutional 2nd amendment and the clause for individual Right to Keep and Bear Arms, all about, anyways? What is the NRA all about?
The boy of Daniel Boyd, Zak Boyd, was an eagle scout. That takes lots of work and merit badges. As all know one of those merit badges is to learn to practice on firearms. Moreover, hunting and using firearms is the American way.
It is a basic human right to protect oneself and one’s family against attack. This right is taken very seriously by many Americans, as mentioned in constitutional rights. Many citizens train with their legal firearms and personal weapons to be prepared for any eventual attack against their person and family, just as the national armed forces train with weapon systems to defend their country’s borders from attack. As the Geneva conventions and other international documents attest, the right to defend from attack is a basic human right. Is a citizen of the USA who has legal, registered firearms, going to sit back and look at them rust, without using them, oiling them, and practicing target practice? That is not the American way.
As one NC commenter said of the weapons accusations:
“…As for the guns, well, I have more than two dozen weapons, a stockpile of ammunition and gas masks at my house too. If attendance at local gun shows is any indication, so do a lot of other folks ;)…”
And as another commentator said:
“…. Ridiculous media allegations with little facts to back them. Last time I checked it wasn’t illegal to stockpile guns. Perhaps it could be for investment purposes or collectors purposes or even perhaps he had fears of a chaotic apocalypse for which he was preparing. All of these are legitimate under the law, weather or not they align with your rationale and world view is inconsequential if we are to live in a country with freedoms as outlined by the bill of rights. It seems funny to me that this “stockpile” is evidence that they were planning massive jihad attacks outside the country. I want to see how they are going to transport this stockpile overseas to be able to use them. Seems very fishy to me. I’m not saying he is not guilty, I am just saying I need more information before I make personal judgments and he deserves a trial. I certainly don’t trust the government at their word.
And as for people who think the 2nd amendment is for hunting purposes, you guys need to go revisit some US history texts. It is so we can protect ourselves from oppressive government if ever need be as much as anything….”
Ideas to open up the thread for discussion and conversation.
Truth and justice will prevail.
The truthful, just and righteous shall inherit the earth.
Gun Purchase and Target Practice is Legal in most states of the USA; 2nd Amendment of the Constitution reads:
“…A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State,
the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed…”
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and an interesting news item
<> Multiple People Carry Assault Weapons Pistol to President Obama’s VFW Event in Phoenix, Arizona – August 17, 2009 — And it’s perfectly legal
<> Man carries assault rifle to Obama protest – and it’s legal
- Story Highlights
- Video shows man with an assault rifle slung over his shoulder at Phoenix protest
- Arizona law has nothing in the books regulating assault rifles
- Secret Service: Man considered no threat to president, who was nearby
- Man carrying rifle: “I think that people need to get out and do it more”
updated 1 hour, 30 minutes ago
PHOENIX, Arizona (CNN) — A man toting an assault rifle was among a dozen protesters carrying weapons while demonstrating outside President Barack Obama’s speech to veterans on Monday, but no laws were broken. It was the second instance in recent days in which unconcealed weapons have appeared near presidential events
A man is shown legally carrying a rifle at a protest against President Obama on Monday in Phoenix, Arizona.
Video from the protest in Phoenix, Arizona, shows the man standing with other protesters, with the rifle slung over his right shoulder.
Phoenix police said authorities monitored about a dozen people carrying weapons while peacefully demonstrating.
“It was a group interested in exercising the right to bear arms,” said police spokesman Sgt. Andy Hill.
Arizona law has nothing in the books regulating assault rifles, and only requires permits for carrying concealed weapons. So despite the man’s proximity to the president, there were no charges or arrests to be made. Hill said officers explained the law to some people who were upset about the presence of weapons at the protest. Watch the rifle being legally carried at rally »
“I come from another state where ‘open carry’ is legal, but no one does it, so the police don’t really know about it and they harass people, arrest people falsely,” the man, who wasn’t identified, said in an interview aired by CNN affiliate KNVX. “I think that people need to get out and do it more so that they get kind of conditioned to it.”
Gun-toting protesters have demonstrated around the president before. Last week, a man protesting outside Obama’s town hall meeting in New Hampshire had a gun strapped to his thigh. That state also doesn’t require a license for open carry.
U.S. Secret Service spokesman Ed Donovan acknowledged the incidents in New Hampshire and Arizona, but said he was not aware of any other recent events where protesters attended with open weapons. He said there was no indication that anyone had organized the incidents.
Asked whether the individuals carrying weapons jeopardized the safety of the president, Donovan said, “Of course not.”
The individuals would never have gotten in close proximity to the president, regardless of any state laws on openly carrying weapons, he said. A venue is considered a federal site when the Secret Service is protecting the president and weapons are not allowed on a federal site, he added.
In both instances, the men carrying weapons were outside the venues where Obama was speaking.
“We pay attention to this obviously … to someone with a firearm when they open carry even when they are within state law,” Donovan said. “We work with our law enforcement counterparts to make sure laws and regulations in their states are enforced.”
President Obama alluded to the multi-trillion USA Military-Industrial complex & propaganda machine (remember President Dwight D. Eisenhower) in his speech and preach on 08/17/09 in Phoenix while mentioning defense bills that are …“loaded with a bunch of pork” and also he mentioned “indefensible no-bid contracts that cost taxpayers billions and make contractors rich” and also “the special interests and their exotic projects that are years behind schedule and billions over budget” and he mentioned those lobbyists and senators and congressmen and “the special interests and their exotic projects that are years behind schedule and billions over budget, the entrenched lobbyists pushing weapons that even our military says it doesn’t want. The impulse in Washington to protect jobs back home building things we don’t need has a cost that we can’t afford.”
Obama said: “It’s inexcusable. It’s an affront to the American people and to our troops. And it’s time for it to stop.”
Pretty good, yet so much hot air, since the reality is, as the AP writer, said:
“Despite objections and veto threats from the White House, a $636 billion Pentagon spending bill was approved by a 400-30 vote in the House late last month. It contains money for a much-criticized new presidential helicopter fleet, cargo jets that the Pentagon says aren’t needed and an alternative engine for the next-generation F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that military leaders say is a waste of money.”
<> Experts from the speech blasting the MIC
“…But here’s the simple truth: We cannot build the 21st-century military we need, and maintain the fiscal responsibility that America demands, unless we fundamentally reform the way our defense establishment does business. … You’ve heard the stories: the indefensible no-bid contracts that cost taxpayers billions and make contractors rich; the special interests and their exotic projects that are years behind schedule and billions over budget; the entrenched lobbyists pushing weapons that even our military says it doesn’t want. The impulse in Washington to protect jobs back home building things we don’t need has a cost that we can’t afford. …
So already I’ve put an end to unnecessary no-bid contracts. I’ve signed bipartisan legislation to reform defense procurement so weapons systems don’t spin out of control. And even as we increase spending on the equipment and weapons our troops do need, we’ve proposed cutting tens of billions of dollars in waste we don’t need.
Think about it. Hundreds of millions of dollars for an alternate second engine for the Joint Strike Fighter — when one reliable engine will do just fine. Nearly $2 billion to buy more F-22 fighter jets — when we can move ahead with a fleet of newer, more affordable aircraft. Tens of billions of dollars to put an anti-missile laser on a fleet of vulnerable 747s.
And billions of dollars for a new presidential helicopter. Now, maybe you’ve heard about this. Among its other capabilities, it would let me cook a meal while under nuclear attack. (Laughter.) Now, let me tell you something, if the United States of America is under nuclear attack, the last thing on my mind will be whipping up a snack. (Laughter and applause.)
So this is pretty straightforward: Cut the waste. Save taxpayer dollars. Support the troops. That’s what we should be doing. (Applause.) The special interests, contractors, and entrenched lobbyists, they’re invested in the status quo. And they’re putting up a fight. But make no mistake, so are we. If a project doesn’t support our troops, if it does not make America safer, we will not fund it. If a system doesn’t perform, we will terminate it. (Applause.) And if Congress sends me a defense bill loaded with a bunch of pork, I will veto it. We will do right by our troops and taxpayers, and we will build the 21st century military that we need. (Applause.)……… ”
|A man with an AR-15 semiautomatic assault rifle joins protesters outside an event in Phoenix where President Obama was discussing health-care reform.|
|Photo Credit: By Jack Kurtz — Associated Press Photo|
<> About a dozen people carrying guns, including one with a military-style rifle, milled among protesters outside the Phoenix convention center where President Obama was giving a speech.
AP Tuesday, August 18, 2009
America armed, but guns not necessarily loaded
AP – In a Saturday, Aug. 22, 2009 photo, Michael Mayer explains the various types of ammunition for handguns …
By MARY FOSTER, Associated Press Writer Mary Foster, Associated Press Writer – Wed Sep 23, 2:51 pm ET
NEW ORLEANS – Bullet-makers are working around the clock, seven days a week, and still can’t keep up with the nation’s demand for ammunition.
Shooting ranges, gun dealers and bullet manufacturers say they have never seen such shortages. Bullets, especially for handguns, have been scarce for months because gun enthusiasts are stocking up on ammo, in part because they fear President Barack Obama and the Democratic-controlled Congress will pass antigun legislation — even though nothing specific has been proposed and the president last month signed a law allowing people to carry loaded guns in national parks.
Gun sales spiked when it became clear Obama would be elected a year ago and purchases continued to rise in his first few months of office. The FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System reported that 6.1 million background checks for gun sales were issued from January to May, an increase of 25.6 percent from the same period the year before.
“That is going to cause an upswing in ammunition sales,” said Larry Keane, senior vice president of the National Shooting Sports Foundation, a trade association representing about 5,000 members. “Without bullets a gun is just a paper weight.”
The shortage for sportsmen is different than the scarcity of ammo for some police forces earlier this year, a dearth fueled by an increase in ammo use by the military in Iraq and Afghanistan.
“We are working overtime and still can’t keep up with the demand,” said Al Russo, spokesman for North Carolina-based Remington Arms Company, which makes bullets for rifles, handguns and shotguns. “We’ve had to add a fourth shift and go 24-7. It’s a phenomenon that I have not seen before in my 30 years in the business.”
Americans usually buy about 7 billion rounds of ammunition a year, according to the National Rifle Association. In the past year, that figure has jumped to about 9 billion rounds, said NRA spokeswoman Vickie Cieplak.
Jason Gregory, who manages Gretna Gun Works just outside of New Orleans, has been building his personal supply of ammunition for months. His goal is to have at least 1,000 rounds for each of his 25 weapons.
“I call it the Obama effect,” said Gregory, 37, of Terrytown, La. “It always happens when the Democrats get in office. It happened with Clinton and Obama is even stronger for gun control. Ammunition will be the first step, so I’m stocking up while I can.”
So far, the new administration nor Congress has not been markedly antigun. Obama has said he respects Second Amendment rights, but favors “common sense” on gun laws. Still, worries about what could happen persist.
Demand has been so heavy at some Walmarts, a limit was imposed on the amount of ammo customers can buy. The cutoff varies according to caliber and store location, but sometimes as little as one box — or 50 bullets — is allowed.
At Barnwood Arms in Ripon, Calif., sales manager Dallas Jett said some of the shortages have leveled off, but 45-caliber rounds are still hard to find.
“We’ve been in business for 32 years and I’ve been here for 10 and we’ve never seen anything like it,” Jett said. “Coming out of Christmas everything started to dry up and it was that way all through the spring and summer.
Nationwide, distributors are scrambling to fill orders from retailers.
“We used to be able to order 50 or 60 cases and get them in three or four days easy, it was never an issue,” said Vic Grechniw of Florida Ammo Traders, a distributor in Tampa, Fla. “Now you are really lucky if you can get one case a month. It just isn’t there because the demand is way up.”
A case contains 500 or 1,000 bullets.
At Jefferson Gun Outlet and Range in Metairie just west of New Orleans, owner Mike Mayer is worried individuals are going to start buying by the case.
“If someone wants to shoot on the weekend you have to worry about having the ammunition for them. And I know some people aren’t buying to use it at the range, they’re taking it home and hoarding it.”
With demand, prices have also risen.
“Used to be gold, but now lead is the most expensive metal,” said Donald Richards, 37, who was stocking up at the Jefferson store. “And worth every penny.”
WEDNESDAY, OCT 20, 2010 21:01 ET
I was anti-gun, until I got stalked
I can’t stand weapons. But after disturbing e-mails and letters, I decided to arm myself with more than words
“You need to arm yourself.”
I blinked at the Portland police officer in my living room. This uniformed bear of a man — packing a gun, a nightstick, a radio and who knew what else — was responding to an ongoing stalker problem that had started several months earlier. I’d received letters, a phone call, a few packages and several e-mails from this unbalanced stranger who’d read a few newspaper stories I’d written and taken a shine to me. When the latest letter arrived — mentioning my boyfriend, Mike, thoughts on religion, and a trip I’d taken but hadn’t told anyone about — I was seriously alarmed.
But get a gun? Surely, I’d misheard him.
“Getting a concealed carry permit isn’t hard,” the officer continued. “And they make ladies’ purses with concealed weapons compartments.”
In that moment, I understood the phrase, “blood turning to ice.” I’m afraid of guns. When you get right down to it, I abhor them. I used to date a guy who owned a handgun and regularly trekked into the woods with his friends to shoot. I made him move the small gun safe from beneath the bed to another room before I’d agree to stay overnight.
But that morning was like a perfect storm of firearms. The first thing Mike had said to me when I opened my eyes — hours before the officer made his suggestion, before my neighbor confided she’d been thinking of getting a gun for hiking and kayaking trips, before my retired military uncle e-mailed to say that arming myself probably wouldn’t be a bad idea — was, “Maybe you should get a gun.”
Apparently, the Universe really wanted me packing heat.
The officer saw the dismay on my face. “Most bullet wounds don’t kill people,” he assured me. “And it would be self-defense.”
I spent the rest of the day in a general freakout.
I was hopeless trying to get any work done. Periodically, I’d do Web searches on handguns. I discovered that Oregon is a right-to-carry state and that it costs $65 for a concealed carry permit — $50 for the four-year permit and $15 for the background check. I learned the difference between a pistol and a revolver — a revolver’s chambers revolve, like the six-shooters in Hollywood Westerns — and I read that the .357 Magnum and .38 Special were ideal for women interested in a gun for self-defense because they’re relatively lightweight, aren’t prone to jamming and don’t carry too many bullets. Because who really needs a 20-round magazine when you’re defending against a stalker? “Six or seven bullets will do you just fine,” read one Web comment.
But the idea of owning a gun made me sick to my stomach. That afternoon, when I escaped into a fitful nap, I dreamed people were pointing double-barreled shotguns at me.
When I thought about it, I realized I’d grown up with firearms in the house — from the antique rifle mounted on the sun porch wall to the Colt .45 in my father’s sock drawer. When I was 7, I watched my cousins shoot targets on the family farm in Virginia. I’d even picked up the hot shell casings as souvenirs.
As an adolescent, I’d spent my own money on a Daisy air pistol. I was surely the only girl at my single-sex prep school who owned a weapon, and I trained with it regularly, which is probably why, years later, I was an ace shot in paintball (Code name: Salad Shooter). Even the ex-military guys clamored to get me on their teams.
But that was a far cry from carrying — or firing — live rounds.
As Mike tried to sleep, I fretted out loud. I told him a firearm in the house made me nauseous, that I feared the weapon would be turned on one of us, that there’d be an accident. I told him I believe in compassion and peace. I told him the very idea of a gun was a compromise of my principles.
Mike sighed. “Which would you prefer, compromising your principles or getting abducted by Crazy Man?”
That’s when the old Theodore Roosevelt adage popped into my head — “Speak softly and carry a big stick” — and I finally got it. I can still be the compassionate, diplomatic, interfaith groovy gal I’ve always been; I’ll just be packing heat in case negotiations tank.
When I got another letter from the stalker — a movie schedule with show times circled, alongside a handwritten note that was way too familiar — Mike looked up the nearest gun dealer and put me in the car.
“This guy is pissing me off,” he told me. “I already have enough stress without this.”
So now, after a background check and fingerprinting, I have my very own Ruger .38 Special — a black, five-shot double-action revolver that fits my small hands disturbingly well.
I was petrified when I went to the firing range for the first time. The police officer behind the counter laughed at my Ruger. “Oh, you’ve got one of those dinky guns!” he said. He warned me how bad the recoil was going to hurt, which scared me even more.
The woman standing beside me leaned over and whispered, “Don’t mind the guys trying to be all macho.” She was packing the same make and model I had.
Another officer took pity and walked me into the range to demonstrate every single step of loading, holding, aiming and firing my weapon. He showed me how to stand and how to eject the bullet casings afterward. Still, even with ear protection, I literally jumped every time someone else pulled a trigger. Gunshots are LOUD.
My hands were shaking as I loaded the .38, and I was still flinching every time the guy in the next lane fired off his .45. I focused on everything the police officer showed me. I kept the barrel pointed down range and my fingers curled around the cylinder until I was ready to snap it back into place. I remembered to keep my thumbs off the gun, and to keep the grip lodged firmly against the fleshy part between my thumb and hand. I aimed, put my finger on the trigger, and fired.
The gun kicked hard, but not as bad as I’d feared, and it was more startling than painful. I shot a few more rounds, making adjustments to my aim for the recoil and my own jumpiness. After I’d gone through two full cylinders — 10 bullets — Mike took a look at the paper target. Every single shot had not only hit the target, but gone right into the chest and head of my paper dummy. Mike was impressed. Frankly, so was I.
After going through a box of 50 rounds, I left the range with black-smudged fingers that smelled of gunpowder. My firing hand was sore the next day, and the truth is — two months and more target practice later — I’m still not entirely comfortable having a handgun in the house. Whenever the dogs erupt in the middle of the night in a barking frenzy, my thoughts go immediately to my .38.
But I’m not as afraid of my stalker as I used to be, either. I’m armed now, with more than words and good intentions. He keeps sending upsetting letters, but if he ever pays a visit … Jenny’s got a gun, and she knows how to use it.
Freelance writer Jennifer Willis specializes in topics related to sustainable living, religion/spirituality, history and health, and she is a founding member of the Oregon News Incubator. She lives with two big dogs in Portland, Ore., and can be found online at www.jennifer-willis.com.
Florida law requires GOP to allow concealed weapons at convention
Be advised if you plan on attending the Republican National Convention in Tampa, Florida this summer. You can’t bring your water gun to the designated protest zones, but your concealed pistol? That’s just fine, according to an article in the Tampa Bay Times.
Under Florida Statute 790.33, local municipalities are forbidden to make or pass any restrictions on the “sale, purchase, transfer, taxation, manufacture, ownership, possession, storage or transportation of guns or ammunition.” So, when Tampa city officials attempted to regulate gun possession with the so-called “Clean Zones” around the proposed convention site, they found that they were already overruled.
“Even if we tried to regulate it, it would be null and void,” City Attorney Jim Shimberg told theTimes.
Assistant City Attorney Mauricio Rodriguez said, “”It was just kind of common sense. We felt if we’re going to regulate people carrying sticks and poles, why wouldn’t we regulate people carrying firearms, because those could pose significant risks to police and other protesters.”
But, facing disciplinary action by the state, including “judgments of up to $100,000 against local governments that enforce local gun ordinances” and action against local officials that could include removal from office, fines of up to $5,000, and denial of representation by city or county attorneys, Tampa legislators backed down.
The outlines of the “Clean Zone” have not been set, but it is expected to cover all of downtown Tampa, the Ybor City neighborhood, and several other areas. Within the zone is the protest area, where demonstrators will be screened to keep out weapons and other potentially hazardous items.
The city has placed limits on the size and duration of parades and rallies, as well as restrictions as to where and when gatherings can be held. Derek Netwon of the Florida ACLU says that the civil liberties group has a number of concerns about the city’s handling of potential protesters, and that ACLU attorneys are looking over the current list of rules.
“We have concerns any time there’s an attempt to restrict speech,” said Newton, and that the organization would make its findings public as soon as the legal review is complete.
No firearms except those belonging to on-duty law-enforcement personnel will be allowed inside the convention. The U.S. Secret Service has the authority to establish and maintain its own secure perimeter within the convention area.
The 2012 Republican National Convention will be held August 27-30.
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